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Hey everyone, it’s me, Boots. I have an announcement to make.

As some of you may know, I’ve spent a pretty long time on these forums. For more than a decade, I’ve had the chance to participate behind the scenes in events planning and community moderation, which has led me to so many new, strange, weird, and incredible experiences that I never could have anticipated. After all that time, I feel like now it’s my turn to give back… maybe in my own weird way. There’s been one question, one mystery frankly, that I’ve never been quite able to solve about this place, despite all the time I’ve hung around this space. This question has troubled me more and more as time goes on, and I don’t think I can put it out of mind any longer. Maybe you’ve noticed it too…

Allow me, for a moment, to set the scene:

Have you ever walked into a space… and felt the vibe change? I don’t really believe in the supernatural or paranormal, but sometimes I get this… feeling, like I’m crossing the threshold from somewhere familiar to somewhere unknown. It could be empty office building, abandoned church, or a some forgotten about place that’s new and inscrutable. I think in some way we’re all drawn to exploring places we’re not supposed to be in, and certain spaces seem to give off this vibe that walks the line between curiosity and gravitas, as if the space itself, or some aspect of it, was alive just on the edge of perception.

Around October of 2022, I delved into the depths of the site’s archive to make a video about a piece of lost media that someone was looking for. In the pursuit of this goal, I asked our admin Rhyselinn for help finding a long-lost page referenced at the end of a fangame by a dead link. The path had fallen into disrepair it seems. Finding a detour to get to the promised address turned out to be no simple task, as the code that sustains the very architecture of this website is deprecated, fragile, and in some cases, an Escher-esque maze of dead-ends and recursive paths; URLs that lead you into secret rooms, long lost archives of users that have come and gone. I could go on at length, and only scratch the surface of what I’ve seen back there.

Nevertheless, with Fangamer’s help we grabbed a few flashlights and spelunked our way through the dark-blue of the site’s back rooms; ducking under the wires, duct-tape, and string that holds this forum together. While our search ultimately led only to more dead ends and virtual cave-ins, I thought I felt something strange while I was back there, and the vibe on this forum has definitely been different after I came back from those darkened corridors. I’m not sure if Rhys felt the same, but it’s time I talked about it here.

I think this word has already had its day in the spotlight, but I really do get the appeal of exploring “liminal spaces”; an old stomping ground after dark, the hidden discussion boards and backend rooms of the early internet, the artefacts of an age past, crystalized into this permeating aura of rara avis. I felt like there was something I had missed in that last trek, something that could explain this nagging question that has stayed with me for all this time. Just what exactly, keeps this website alive? By all accounts, internet message boards are a dying breed, so how has this one hung on for so long?

I could have been imagining it, but I swear there were some rooms in the back of the site where I felt a pull, like the answer to my question was just on the other side of a door. In some places this feeling was stronger, more concentrated, and I’ve been considering whether it would be possible to follow this vibe… and triangulate a point of origin. The heart of the site, if you want a colourful metaphor. Or maybe just a reason to explain why I’ve felt so compelled to embark on another journey to the back in the first place. It is weird, when you think about it, how some people have been posting on this site continuously for years on end. There has to be some kind of explanation for this phenomenon that transcends just simple nostalgia. I believe I am ready to find out the truth.

So I leave you now with an open invitation. By the time you’re reading this note, I will likely be too far deep into the archives for you to reach me, but I’ve left some breadcrumbs to help me re-trace my steps in case I get lost. I can’t recommend that you follow me, but if you too are curious about what lies at the core of starmen.net, I’ll leave a gate open. It won’t be easy to find though. After everything that happened in December of 2022… it’s best that I don’t leave the path open for any bot or AI to gain access. There’s no telling what kind of death star carnage one of those beings could wreak if it breached our safeguards and entered the archives…

The site is old and sensitive, and the infrastructure I’m exploring is definitely no longer up to code. If you read this far though, I’m willing to leave you a clue in the most appropriate form I can think of for this site; a riddle. Good luck, be careful, and remember: If you seek, you shall find.


Y ou’ve found this here, a ti M e and place,
a d I gital relic, an old 3rd place.
oceans of text, too D eep to expl O re,
the s U m of the parts is often more.

time goes on, i’ll L eave A clue,
it could come natural L y to s O me of you.
an oversigh T , or maybe n O t,
like a K ey without a lock.

remember well T hese w O rds of mine,
to get there, it may take S ome time.
an ad J unct cipher, A ny can try,
but heed my C lue: point bl U e to sky.

i have s E t out, this I s my quest,
to find the core, comp L ete m Y test.
trac K down where you M ust begin,
re-tra C e the steps, find pow E r withi N .

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Okay, I’m not going to lie, I thought this was going to be a message about Boots retiring from the forums. This, however, is much better.
We may not be (as far as I know anyways) up against a dark force that threatens the site as we know it, but there’s a puzzle to solve all the same. As a starman lore enthusiast, a quest that will lead us to the very heart and soul of this site is something I simply must undertake. It is time, once again, for us to band together and embark on a journey!

Now, analyzing the riddle, I looked at the colored letters, and there’s a set in light blue and one in dark blue. Each of them spell out a message, if I’m correct. In the first two verses I can see the words “YOU LOOK” in the dark blue letters…but I can’t seem to find any other decipherable words from then, so it may be a coincidence. Not 100% sure though. I have to go to bed soon but for reference here’s the colored letters:

Light blue: M, I, D, A, L, T, O, A, C, E, M, N
Dark blue: Y, O, U, L, O, O, K, T, S, J, U, I, L, K, E

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Don’t forget the E at the end of dark blue — Sword of Dorks pointed out on Discord that it unscrambles to “YOU LOOK JUST LIKE”. We’re not sure about the light blue though, but I do wonder if the two words in the text of the post highlighted in light blue (“feeling” and “pull”) might factor in somehow.

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Hmm. Not sure of too much, but… I will note that while I’ve never heard of an “adjunct cipher”, I have heard of vignere ciphers (Though I’m not great at solving them), and “point blue to sky” might reference the dark blue and sky blue text?

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Hmm. Not sure of too much, but… I will note that while I’ve never heard of an “adjunct cipher”, I have heard of vignere ciphers (Though I’m not great at solving them), and “point blue to sky” might reference the dark blue and sky blue text?

Right, but vigeneres generally need a key to decrypt. If we maybe knew the length of the key, that would suffice, but I haven’t any clue what it might be. Any ideas?

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Oh, I’ve never been good at these puzzles, but yeah, rooting around in the old place is fun. Real nostalgic, glad a lot of it still works. A few weeks ago I was even setting about to try to put together the full set of Starmen Buddies trading cards, in loving memory, but got stymied by a bunch of broken links. Also may’ve broken into the shadow government once by accident? The registration link worked when I used a dummy mail but I couldn’t get back in.

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Oh. It wasn’t a vigenere, possibly. I found something, though… an edit on an old post in the weezerfest (Made today).

“Follow my instructions, and I will speak to you in the language of hexes. 4 words on 4 faces. Clockwise when…”

It also had the following link:

https://ssl-forum-files.fobby.net/forum_attachments/0049/5455/CIP.pdf

Edit: also, I’d assume that “pointing blue to sky” could reference something with the blue tips and the Skyrunner?

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This seems like one part of a set. I’d recommend we check for any other edited posts.

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Hey, I found what I suspect may be the other one! I noticed that the lighter (Sky?) blue text above was the same color as the word “Cursed” under Boots avatar, so I remembered and decided to check the old post about “cursed” mini avvies, and guess what I found! (Also, I had found the weezerfest because of the dark blue text being “You look just like” (Buddy Holly?), and I had been playing around with the other, lighter blue text, which seems to anagram to “Mid name Alt OC”? When I checked that post, I found the below!

Considering that the first file is “cip”, and the second pdf is “her”, this should be a linked pair of files (cipher)! I… don’t have access to a printer right now, though, which seems to be necessary for the next step – printing out and creating/reading something the file is calling a …hexaflexagon, which is entirely new to me, but very cool! Can someone print these out and take a look at assembling them?

Provided text from the edited post (note that this is written in blue, and the text above from the weezerfest was in orange, if that matters) :

Follow my instructions, and I will speak to you in the language of hexes. … blue points up and orange points down on a single face.

https://ssl-forum-files.fobby.net/forum_attachments/0049/5454/HER.pdf

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Don’t forget the E at the end of dark blue — Sword of Dorks pointed out on Discord that it unscrambles to “YOU LOOK JUST LIKE”. We’re not sure about the light blue though, but I do wonder if the two words in the text of the post highlighted in light blue (“feeling” and “pull”) might factor in somehow.

first thought was that it’s referencing the song 6up 50h, but I doubt it.

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Okay. We do this

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Hol- up … Extract the TWO strips?

Place the lonely 4 back to back with that which is gruff?so that Saturn is back to back with the heaven traveler?

Lonely 4, that’s the 4 that’s by itself without an accompanying picture

Heavenly traveler that’s the skyrunner

So… Where is the gruff goat? And possibly Mr. Saturn?

I feel we’re missing a strip

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why does this look like math now

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It’s letters, thankfully, not math. It folds into a Hexaflexagon, and when you cycle through the faces (maybe with some folding errors) it provides four words, coded in hexadecimal.

“FIND”
“THEM”
“LAST”
“CAMP!”

That apparently led us other places, but other people can explain those parts better.

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This is definitely the wrong thread, im very sorry, but i just have to ask: does anyone check the help thread in pk hack forum?

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Yep! Give it some time and a Certified Earthbound Hacking Specialist:tm: should be able to assist you with any hacking issues you may be dealing with!!

Anyways, I’m sure most of you have noticed, but it looks like an announcement was sent out. I accidentally refreshed the page so I wasn’t able to click it and see if it directed me anywhere, but I do know the binary translated to “Uh-oh”.

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Oh, y’all are behind? I don’t know what I can and can’t say, but look for The Portal.

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Oh I forgot, you guys work on this in the discord too. You’re probably miles ahead of me lol.

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For the light blue words, it could be “TIDAL” and “OCEAN” but that would leave “MM”

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It’s letters, thankfully, not math. It folds into a Hexaflexagon, and when you cycle through the faces (maybe with some folding errors) it provides four words, coded in hexadecimal.

“FIND”
“THEM”
“LAST”
“CAMP!”

That apparently led us other places, but other people can explain those parts better.

That’d be Vid or Ripjaw or Kate probably. But there was a VR recreation of the last Camp Fangamer. Last night a bunch of dedicated individuals braved the VR Camp and looked through and found it had changed since it had last been looked at (however long ago that was)

So that’s where we’re at now. As far as I can tell we’re still in that VR Camp Fangamer trying to “find them”

Also, this seems to be a thing:

Uh-oh…

Which is what that translates to.

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Ah, hello everyone! So there has been a bit learned since then.

In the VR Camp Fangamer, we encountered the Salvager (an entity from the end of the Weezerfest), who had entirely new dialog to say!

Critically, among this dialogue, we were told:
“Seek out the unmentionable red insanity of the past. At the very beginning, or the very end, depending on your perspective”
“Only a human may pass through the barrier; a mirrored avatar of the self. Place your cursor within the void of the 3rd of 5.”
“Press and hold without relent, only then, may you cross beyond the veil.”

I do not know if it is safe to directly post a link here, as we literally don’t want bots finding The Portal. However, if you search this forum, you should be able to find it. And what you find there may surprise you greatly, if you remember the above. I am about to return there and make another attempt, and I cannot recommend enough that others do the same. Don’t give up.


More specifically, there is a post somewhere called The Portal. (It can be searched by that name), and you should pay close attention to the avatar of the person who created it.
Even more specifically, click and hold in the central O of that avatar. You'll need a mouse. Be ready to spend some time here, the current speedrun record is almost two hours.

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Found the Portal. I’m trying to figure out what the 3rd of 5 is now…


Ah, great. I’ll probably have to wait until I get home to try this then.

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Sorry for being ambiguous about it! I didn’t want to ruin the experience of finding it, y’know?

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Hey, good job Kail!

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Is there a spot on the discord or elsewhere where folks are figuring this all out? This is exciting and I want to follow whats going on

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I might be misunderstanding/behind, but… I tried using a vignere cipher with the two strands of text as keys for each other.

Using dark blue as key for light blue: OUJPXFEHKVSF
Other way around: MGRLDVWTQFIVZCB

Yeah I don’t think that’s it.

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Is there a spot on the discord or elsewhere where folks are figuring this all out? This is exciting and I want to follow whats going on

We did it all on VC, sorry! There are some gifs (with SPOILERS, be warned!) in #voice-chat though, if you want to see.

I might be misunderstanding/behind, but… I tried using a vignere cipher with the two strands of text as keys for each other.

Using dark blue as key for light blue: OUJPXFEHKVSF
Other way around: MGRLDVWTQFIVZCB

Yeah I don’t think that’s it.

The dark blue text says: YOU LOOK JUST LIKE, and the light blue text says MID ALT NAME OC

These were clues for older events, if I’m recalling correctly. YOU LOOK JUST LIKE was for Weezerfest, for example.

Weirdly enough, I’m a pomegranate.

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Xedic sent me this image. I got a yellow banner like we all did, and he decoded the code. Idk if this has been brought up yet?

Edit: UG already posted this, nevermind.

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People were posting in #general and #voicechat, last I saw! There isn’t currently a dedicated channel that I know of.

edit: I’m sorry – I somehow missed that A Very already answered that question. My bad!

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I hopped into the vrchat world and managed to figure things out from there! What a cool experience this was!
Super creative! Loved it! It only took me 4 hours. That last section was incredibly hard though, Im really bad at those sorts of games.

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Making another attempt today.
Edit: Never mind. Got it. Gaming time

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I have absolutely no idea what’s going on, trying to balance this with schoolwork and it isn’t really working out.

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I don’t know if this had to do with anything, bit when I zoomed into the avatar of the Portal’s poster, it turned into a backwards Boots avatar. Clicking and holding the O from there let me progress.
Also, if anyone knows what to do for the potion game, it’d be much appreciated, because I’m kind of stuck.
Edit: To be specific, I’m able to create the amalgam, but I can’t get farther from there.

I am a Coolio Burgers kind of guy.

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Wait, I’m confused. Where are we right now? Is this a group thing, like where one person finishes it something special happens for everyone? Or are people just independently doing it?

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pretty sure this is a group thing.

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Yeah, everyone is working together. I think. Still stuck on the potion game though.

Edit: Never mind. Beat it

Edit 2: I beat the halfway point, now I guess I have to playthrough the minigames again….but HARDER. Whew. This will take a long time. PLEASE don’t tell me I gotta solve a harder version of the potion one…

Edit 3: Yep, you do. Hghhhh.

Edit 4: If anyone knows what to do for the castle minigame, kindly give me advice, I’m reaching the end of my tether here…

Edit 5: Never mind…again. Think I’m getting somewhere.

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I don’t know if this had to do with anything, bit when I zoomed into the avatar of the Portal’s poster, it turned into a backwards Boots avatar. Clicking and holding the O from there let me progress.
Also, if anyone knows what to do for the potion game, it’d be much appreciated, because I’m kind of stuck.
Edit: To be specific, I’m able to create the amalgam, but I can’t get farther from there.


There’s hints scattered around, and some things are based on comedy cartoon logic. Think like you’re playing an old point and click game. If all else fails you can scroll through the voice chat text channel on the discord and read half a conversation for hints. Or do what I did and get a friend who likes puzzle games to help.

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I don’t know if this had to do with anything, bit when I zoomed into the avatar of the Portal’s poster, it turned into a backwards Boots avatar. Clicking and holding the O from there let me progress.
Also, if anyone knows what to do for the potion game, it’d be much appreciated, because I’m kind of stuck.
Edit: To be specific, I’m able to create the amalgam, but I can’t get farther from there.


There’s hints scattered around, and some things are based on comedy cartoon logic. Think like you’re playing an old point and click game. If all else fails you can scroll through the voice chat text channel on the discord and read half a conversation for hints. Or do what I did and get a friend who likes puzzle games to help.

Edit: whoops I’m late. Didn’t see your above post. My bad

Edit (real this time): Oh no I accidentally misclicked reply instead of edit! How embarrassing!

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I’m at the final (I think) game. This one is probably the hardest, will likely take some time.

Update: my mom shut my laptop and the page reloaded. I have to play everything over again. EVERYTHING. OVER. AGAIN.

Now, granted, it’ll go a bit faster this time since I know what to do, but still—
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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aw -- another arg started without me

Strike that! Reverse it!

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I…just replayed the entire thing AND beat the final battle in one attempt. Wow. I blame adrenaline and my better gaming position (lying in on my stomach in bed).

also scalli don’t worry this one is slightly less hard then the weezerfest!

…I think. Maybe.

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does the hexaflexagon mean anything?

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure it was a guide to the Camp Fangamer VR recreation.

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er. i mmmmmay have forgotten to do something. or Did Something Wrong.

mod edit: spoiler your spoilers please!


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the heck

how the HECK did you get that?? I haven’t seen that screen at all.

also purple pain. Nice.

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OH i think it’s because i didn’t have enough badges to open the door at the end. i only have two out of the five needed

but like i have no idea how to get the other three badges i need so uh

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OH i think it’s because i didn’t have enough badges to open the door at the end. i only have two out of the five needed

but like i have no idea how to get the other three badges i need so uh

You only need 3 to open the door. Theres a secret one I got by clicking on the rat under the alchemy table

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that one’s one of the two that i already have though

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