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Everyone seems to have a story to tell, but I’m having trouble telling mine. I have good ideas, but I can never seem to be able to transfer them onto paper. Also, it seems that when I have the time to actually write, I end up getting pulled away or subconsciously pushing it aside. Any advice that could be given will be appreciated. Also, if you happen to be an author or writer of any sort, feel free to discuss your writing styles and things that help you concentrate here.

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I’m having the same problem, I’m afraid to say. However, I would say that first off, and this is most important in my opinion, you really have to be able to get into the characters of your story. If you look forward to writing about the different people in your story, and can get into their minds, so to speak, then the plot and descriptions should come naturally from there.

The way I usually write is to think of a specific scene that I want to write about, and then work backwards. Who is in the scene, and what are they doing? Then I start thinking of events that could have led up to the scene. Maybe you should start by just writing an outline. That way, you may have more ideas come along that may further motivate you to write.

I hope that helps.

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If I write, the ideas come to me when I’m not trying to think about it. I mean I don’t know if that will help you but I try and take my mind off of it and ideas start flowing!

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If you want to be a better writer, read more. Reading both serves as inspiration for your work and helps you see how professional writers structure their work.

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First thing you have to come to terms with is that it’s not going to be easy or quick. You’re going to be putting a lot of time and effort into what you’re doing if you expect it to come to fruition. Dedication and drive are key elements. I’d suggest setting a goal for yourself – 500 words a day or whatever you’re comfortable with. It helps keep one motivated.

If I get stuck I tend to go read for a while, listen to music, look at some drawings, watch a movie. Sometimes when I least expect it I’ll go off on a tangent thinking about something from one of the arts I’ve observed and bam I have a direction to go in.

Don’t be afraid to carry a small pad of paper with you at all times. Sometimes thoughts will nail you in the head when you’re at the mall or something and you don’t want to forget those concepts. People think I’m weird for doing it, but it’s helped me more times than I can count.

Also Stephen King’s book “On Writing” is an awesome read for aspiring writers.

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Inspiration, inspiration, inspiration. If you can’t get excited about your own work, then it’s only going to be a drag to write. It might help to write just the awesome/important parts of your story first, and do the boring parts later.

An unorthodox method of improving your writing is by reading bad writing. I found my own writing improved when I knew what things not to do.

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Don’t be afraid to carry a small pad of paper with you at all times. Sometimes thoughts will nail you in the head when you’re at the mall or something and you don’t want to forget those concepts. People think I’m weird for doing it, but it’s helped me more times than I can count.

One hundred times yes. Good ideas can quickly degrade when you are far away from the ability to record them.

Write down your raw thoughts and sort them out later. Some of the best ideas are not from brainstorming. This is true for more than just writing.

Also,

-Unless you have something you really need to get out of your system, do not jump directly into writing until you have some skeleton work done. You’re writing a novel, think about your themes and characters and the overall progression of plot. There will be deviation from the skeleton, but if you don’t have some preliminary work done you’ll have a lot of loose threads before you know it.

-Set realistic expectations. Expect a long haul, expect multiple revisions.

-Get some folks to read it at different points during the writing process. You’re going to have a little bias towards understanding or “getting” what you wrote yourself, but that doesn’t gauge the reaction of others.

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    This should probably go in the Writing forum. That place needs more discussion anyway.

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      Oh no, by moving it to the writing forum I killed it!

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      Yeah I was kinda hoping it wouldn’t get moved. Seems hardly anyone goes to the writing forum.

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      Ahhh, novelwriting. Yeah, it’s a lot different from finishing a few pages of fanfic, that’s for sure.

      Completing a project that big is about discipline. If I let myself “not feel like it”, I’ll usually be lazy and watch TV instead. So make writing a routine. Hold yourself responsible every day (with reasonable exceptions for school/work/travel/family/illness). I find it helps to have a quota, like 200 words per day or some other goal that’s easy to meet. Working toward small goals is more encouraging than struggling toward one enormous goal.

      A lot of people find it helpful to have a place devoted to writing. It trains you to get into a writing frame of mind as soon as you go there. It can be a corner of your house if you like peace and quiet. I go to a nearby coffee shop for the ambient background noise. I’ve been going there for years, so the employees and regular customers all know I’m a novelist. It’s a great motivator to have people say, “Wow, a novel? That’s cool!”, but on that note, don’t work in public if you’re not prepared to have nosy, well-meaning strangers talking to you.

      Also, give yourself permission to suck. The first draft is allowed to have boring scenes and lame sentences and plot holes and spelling errors. That’s okay! You can edit later! No one writes a novel perfectly on the first try. The fastest way to kill your writing drive is pressuring yourself over every word, so just worry about getting to the end of the first draft. Then you can look the whole thing over and see what could use a rewrite.

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      Make the reader feel what the character feels. That’s one Hope it helps!

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      Thank you. All of you. I realize I, by all means, didn’t start this topic but your advice has sincerely helped me.

      I had a similar problem to Skyrunner14. But your advice got me out of my writing rut.

      And Pyrasaur, yes, I do give myself permission to suck (cause I do)

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      Write outlines. Outline outline outline.

      Other than that, I can’t really say more than what others have said. Just…don’t expect it to come quickly, though for you it actually might: some people write a novel in a month (I’ve met someone who wrote a decently-selling novel in the course of ten days, minus editing of course, where they wrote nonstop except for food and sleep), some people take years, then put the book down, and then pick it up later, realize that their writing was horrible X years ago, and then rewrite the entire manuscript.

      Also, if you plan on getting it published, research your publishing options and make sure you properly fill out any forms, introductory letters, etc.

      Really, it’s all about self-motivation. Be confident!

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      Honestly, the outline thing never worked for me. I like to come up with characters and then decide what kinds of events they can go through. I put those events together in the most convenient way I can.

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      Ugh, outlines. Never really worked for me. I alway’s followed the ‘On Writing’ approach. WHenever I made an out line, when I actually started writing, it felt like a chore, rather than a discovery. The goal being to complete the story according to the outline

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      I can completely understand where the dislike of outlines comes from.

      It’s probably just me, though, but unless I have at least a rough outline for something novel-length I tend to go on crazy writing tangents… I get stories based off ideas and themes, specific short scenes, and I find I need to outline events that fit in-between the images that I wanted originally to write about. Otherwise, my longer stories are a series of flashes that aren’t particularly coherent.

      I don’t use outlines for shorter stories. Just novel ideas. And even then, the outline is just a possibility – never a brick-and-mortar certainty. (This was a thread for writing novels, so… Regardless, sorry if I seemed too vague in explaining my approach.)

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      Good stuff, Foppy. Now prove yourself wrong!

      My two cents on outlines? They’re great for making sure there’s going to be an actual plot, with a coherent beginning and end, and enough stuff happening in the middle. But if the writing veers away from the outline in spots because you get inspired, oh well! Whatever makes a better, more natural story.

      Some writers work best when every detail is planned out before they begin. Some writers are more comfortable with scratchy “and then some stuff happens” outlines. Hey, to each their own. It also depends on what exactly you’re writing. High fantasy and murder mysteries have a lot of details and background to keep straight, whereas a romantic drama between ordinary 21st century people might not need much planning at all.

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